slt voila je vien d'avoir un nouvo graveur dvd c un polaroid dvd+/-r,rw 4x et depui je n'ai réussi que 2 dvd sur 10 de marque différente les 8 ki on foiré n'ont pa dépassé le 1% en gravure et ce avec nero et alcohol
imation: 0/1
verbatim: 1/2
mmore: 1/7
voila si kk1 pe m'aider je l'en remerci d'avance et bonne fete a tous
pb gravure dvd avec graveur polaroid
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pb gravure dvd avec graveur polaroid
par bigmao » 30 Déc 2003 22:46
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par PIER » 30 Déc 2003 22:55
Tu aurais le journal de gravure ?
Abréviations et style SMS sont à proscrire, merci de faire des phrases !
Aucun support par Mail / MP
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par bigmao » 31 Déc 2003 0:10
voila je pense ke c ca le journal(log?)
a l'aide
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=1, 0, 0, 154, size=32768 bytes, created 04/06/2000 12:28:14
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 29/01/2003 21:37:36
Nero Version: 5.5.10.33
Recorder: <DVDRW IDE1004> Version: 0039 - HA 1 TA 1 - 5.5.10.33
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: < DVD+RW RW5125> Version: 1.27 - HA 0 TA 1 - 5.5.10.33
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST3120023A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : DVD+RW RW5125 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : DVDRW IDE1004 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a axsaki Port 2 ID 0 DMA: ?
=======================
AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 255MB (261616kB)
Free physical memory: 25MB (26468kB)
Memory in use : 89 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Enabled (1)
Wizard: Off
30.12.2003
Copie-DVD à la volée
22:06:23 #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 115
Reader running
22:06:23 #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 125
Writer DVDRW IDE1004 running
22:06:24 #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3737
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
22:06:24 #4 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
Setup items (original item values)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 Données (mode 1))
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original CD pos #0 + 2274320 (2274320) = #2274320/505:24.20
not relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
--------------------------------------------------------------
22:06:28 #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 222
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45)
Last address to be written: 2274319 (505:24.19)
22:06:28 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 227
Write in overburning mode: FALSE
22:06:28 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1679
Recorder: DVDRW IDE1004, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: MBI -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
22:06:29 #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 824
Prepare recorder DVDRW IDE1004 for write in cue-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN:
TOCTYPE: 0x0 Session Closed, CD fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x0, ISRC "", FilePos 0 307200 363147264
22:06:29 #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 Données (mode 1))
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original CD pos #0 + 2274320 (2274320) = #2274320/505:24.20
not relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2274320 blocks [DVDRW IDE1004 ]
--------------------------------------------------------------
22:06:29 #10 Phase 32 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Simulation started at 1x (1 380 Ko/s)
22:06:30 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1978
Verifying CD position of item 0 (not relocatable, no CD pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
22:06:30 #12 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1421
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
22:06:30 #13 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 18102
Set BUFE: Super Link -> ON
22:06:31 #14 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1535
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
22:06:31 #15 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7877
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
22:06:31 #16 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 166
DVDCopy: Source-Media-Type : 32 - Start of Dirty CD to DVDCopy
22:06:42 #17 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 316
22:06:42.390 - DVDRW IDE1004 : Queue again later (Intervall : 47msec)
23:03:16 #18 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
<DVDRW IDE1004 > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2274320 (22B410h), lenght 0 blocks
23:03:16 #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
all writers idle, stopping conversion
23:04:47 #20 Phase 33 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Simulation completed successfully at 1x (1 380 Ko/s)
23:04:47 #21 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Burn process started at 1x (1 380 Ko/s)
23:04:48 #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1978
Verifying CD position of item 0 (not relocatable, no CD pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
23:04:48 #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1421
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
23:04:48 #24 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 18102
Set BUFE: Super Link -> ON
23:04:48 #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1535
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
23:04:48 #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7877
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
23:05:27 #27 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 316
23:05:27.312 - DVDRW IDE1004 : Queue again later (Intervall : 47msec)
23:06:10 #28 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1416
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x025B0000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00
23:06:10 #29 DVDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 333
Write error
23:06:10 #30 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
all writers idle, stopping conversion
23:06:10 #31 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 216
conversion idle, stopping reader
23:06:11 #32 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Burn process failed at 1x (1 380 Ko/s)
23:06:11 #33 Text 0 File Scsicmd.cpp, Line 406
SCSI not using temporary buffers
20 out of 20 temporary buffers allocated
Existing drivers:
File 'WNASPINT.DLL': Ver=V1.18, size=57344 bytes, created 12/06/2003 00:00:00
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.36a, size=16288 bytes, created 29/03/2002 14:35:32 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 30/08/2002 13:00:00 (Adapter driver for rec)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 1 (Security Option)
a l'aide
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=1, 0, 0, 154, size=32768 bytes, created 04/06/2000 12:28:14
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 29/01/2003 21:37:36
Nero Version: 5.5.10.33
Recorder: <DVDRW IDE1004> Version: 0039 - HA 1 TA 1 - 5.5.10.33
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: < DVD+RW RW5125> Version: 1.27 - HA 0 TA 1 - 5.5.10.33
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST3120023A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : DVD+RW RW5125 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : DVDRW IDE1004 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a axsaki Port 2 ID 0 DMA: ?
=======================
AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 255MB (261616kB)
Free physical memory: 25MB (26468kB)
Memory in use : 89 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Enabled (1)
Wizard: Off
30.12.2003
Copie-DVD à la volée
22:06:23 #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 115
Reader running
22:06:23 #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 125
Writer DVDRW IDE1004 running
22:06:24 #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3737
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
22:06:24 #4 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
Setup items (original item values)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 Données (mode 1))
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original CD pos #0 + 2274320 (2274320) = #2274320/505:24.20
not relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
--------------------------------------------------------------
22:06:28 #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 222
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45)
Last address to be written: 2274319 (505:24.19)
22:06:28 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 227
Write in overburning mode: FALSE
22:06:28 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1679
Recorder: DVDRW IDE1004, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: MBI -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
22:06:29 #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 824
Prepare recorder DVDRW IDE1004 for write in cue-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN:
TOCTYPE: 0x0 Session Closed, CD fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x0, ISRC "", FilePos 0 307200 363147264
22:06:29 #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 Données (mode 1))
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original CD pos #0 + 2274320 (2274320) = #2274320/505:24.20
not relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2274320 blocks [DVDRW IDE1004 ]
--------------------------------------------------------------
22:06:29 #10 Phase 32 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Simulation started at 1x (1 380 Ko/s)
22:06:30 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1978
Verifying CD position of item 0 (not relocatable, no CD pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
22:06:30 #12 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1421
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
22:06:30 #13 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 18102
Set BUFE: Super Link -> ON
22:06:31 #14 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1535
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
22:06:31 #15 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7877
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
22:06:31 #16 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 166
DVDCopy: Source-Media-Type : 32 - Start of Dirty CD to DVDCopy
22:06:42 #17 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 316
22:06:42.390 - DVDRW IDE1004 : Queue again later (Intervall : 47msec)
23:03:16 #18 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
<DVDRW IDE1004 > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2274320 (22B410h), lenght 0 blocks
23:03:16 #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
all writers idle, stopping conversion
23:04:47 #20 Phase 33 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Simulation completed successfully at 1x (1 380 Ko/s)
23:04:47 #21 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Burn process started at 1x (1 380 Ko/s)
23:04:48 #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1978
Verifying CD position of item 0 (not relocatable, no CD pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
23:04:48 #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1421
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
23:04:48 #24 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 18102
Set BUFE: Super Link -> ON
23:04:48 #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1535
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
23:04:48 #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7877
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
23:05:27 #27 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 316
23:05:27.312 - DVDRW IDE1004 : Queue again later (Intervall : 47msec)
23:06:10 #28 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1416
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x025B0000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00
23:06:10 #29 DVDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 333
Write error
23:06:10 #30 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
all writers idle, stopping conversion
23:06:10 #31 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 216
conversion idle, stopping reader
23:06:11 #32 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Burn process failed at 1x (1 380 Ko/s)
23:06:11 #33 Text 0 File Scsicmd.cpp, Line 406
SCSI not using temporary buffers
20 out of 20 temporary buffers allocated
Existing drivers:
File 'WNASPINT.DLL': Ver=V1.18, size=57344 bytes, created 12/06/2003 00:00:00
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.36a, size=16288 bytes, created 29/03/2002 14:35:32 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 30/08/2002 13:00:00 (Adapter driver for rec)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 1 (Security Option)
- bigmao
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- Messages: 7
- Enregistré le: 30 Déc 2003
par Maverick » 31 Déc 2003 15:08
Salut,
Essayes en mettant uniquement le DD en Master sur IDE0 et le graveur en Master sur IDE1.
Mettres Néro à jours 5.5.10.54
Disponible dans notre rubrique
Téléchargement.
Et faire l'image a partir du graveur avec lequel tu vas graver.
Essayes en mettant uniquement le DD en Master sur IDE0 et le graveur en Master sur IDE1.
Mettres Néro à jours 5.5.10.54
Disponible dans notre rubrique
Téléchargement.
Et faire l'image a partir du graveur avec lequel tu vas graver.
- Maverick
- Inconditionnel
- Messages: 6871
- Enregistré le: 11 Sep 2002
- Localisation: Huy/Belgique
par williams » 04 Jan 2004 6:27
j'ai l'impression d'écrire pour un aveugle 
regardez votre LOG :
puis lisez http://faq-nero.e-wsc.com/faq017.php
Quelque soit le graveur vous aurez ce conflit
williams - bis a écrit:vous avez un conflit d'applications de gravure. faites un choix.
ensuite gravez un DVD+RW et envoyez de nouveau le LOG de Nero (si Nero est le choix définitif biensur)
regardez votre LOG :
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.36a, size=16288 bytes, created 29/03/2002 14:35:32 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
puis lisez http://faq-nero.e-wsc.com/faq017.php
Quelque soit le graveur vous aurez ce conflit
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williams - Membre éminent
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par PIER » 05 Jan 2004 8:21
Ça sent le locke !
Abréviations et style SMS sont à proscrire, merci de faire des phrases !
Aucun support par Mail / MP
Rechercher avant de poser une question !
Aucun support par Mail / MP
Rechercher avant de poser une question !-
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par williams » 05 Jan 2004 9:00
bigmao a écrit:maintenant nero ne me laisse plus choisir ma vitesse il m'est 5.1x alors ke le dvd ne pe etre graver kan 4x
il m'est quoi ?
agréable ? insuportable (comme moi) ?
est = verbe être
peut-être vouliez-vous écrire le verbe "mettre" ?
Au lieu de vous aider, je préfére faire du remplissage car vous ne tenez pas compte que ce j'ai écrit. bla bla bla bla
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